1 00:00:10,890 --> 00:00:28,359 [Music] 2 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:41,479 blast off in my sleep hello hello this 3 00:00:47,209 --> 00:00:44,010 is Ryan the original outlaw of the 4 00:00:50,779 --> 00:00:47,219 airwaves here to blast off with you on 5 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:50,789 another episode of hero paranormal 6 00:00:57,139 --> 00:00:53,850 podcast where we check out the hyper 7 00:01:01,069 --> 00:00:57,149 anomalous esoteric research that our 8 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:01,079 organization thrives on and in such we 9 00:01:08,060 --> 00:01:04,019 check out the heroes of those fields 10 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:08,070 ufology cryptozoology secret societies 11 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:11,340 the cultural fringe anything within 12 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:14,130 those parameters is not off-limits to us 13 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:16,290 and we will do our best to bring you the 14 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:20,939 best of the best and today is no less we 15 00:01:28,910 --> 00:01:23,700 have a great show ahead of you we have 16 00:01:31,789 --> 00:01:28,920 the one the only tiago lewis tusheti he 17 00:01:35,149 --> 00:01:31,799 is well he's done it all he is the 18 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:35,159 author of many texts in many magazines 19 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:38,310 as well as many books which he has 20 00:01:43,219 --> 00:01:41,040 contributed to the UFO field he is 21 00:01:46,179 --> 00:01:43,229 considered by the brazilian UFO 22 00:01:49,969 --> 00:01:46,189 community as the greatest expert on 23 00:01:52,249 --> 00:01:49,979 extraterrestrial and ufos typology as 24 00:01:54,289 --> 00:01:52,259 well as UFO crashes reports of 25 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:54,299 encounters between identified flying 26 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:57,840 objects and militaries wala civilians 27 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:01,200 and this includes pilots today he counts 28 00:02:08,830 --> 00:02:04,770 in his database more than 200 reports 29 00:02:11,809 --> 00:02:08,840 all which are very dedicated Lee 30 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:11,819 analyzed and investigated as well as 31 00:02:15,949 --> 00:02:12,930 researched 32 00:02:18,410 --> 00:02:15,959 Tiago is also the first and only 33 00:02:22,190 --> 00:02:18,420 Brazilian researcher to have articles 34 00:02:25,580 --> 00:02:22,200 published by the British magazine UFO 35 00:02:27,140 --> 00:02:25,590 matrix he is currently a columnist for 36 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:27,150 UFO truth magazine 37 00:02:33,140 --> 00:02:29,970 and he continues to be at the forefront 38 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:33,150 of important UFO cases in Brasilia such 39 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:36,930 as the Guara case the Semin buy a case 40 00:02:42,679 --> 00:02:40,290 in the UFO probe of the band TV team in 41 00:02:45,589 --> 00:02:42,689 addition he has investigated classic 42 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:45,599 cases of ufology such as the pappu 43 00:02:51,649 --> 00:02:48,450 decays the paranoia damned case and 44 00:02:53,660 --> 00:02:51,659 tiket ii is considered basically the 45 00:02:55,490 --> 00:02:53,670 best of the best which is like pretty 46 00:02:59,690 --> 00:02:55,500 much who we want to talk to you this 47 00:03:02,599 --> 00:02:59,700 area is riddled in ufology cases and 48 00:03:05,210 --> 00:03:02,609 many of them are unfathomable we have 49 00:03:08,330 --> 00:03:05,220 everything from flying Volkswagen 50 00:03:10,729 --> 00:03:08,340 Beetles we have another case which 51 00:03:12,770 --> 00:03:10,739 includes a cyclops entity almost with 52 00:03:16,009 --> 00:03:12,780 like a bubble on his head and breathing 53 00:03:18,020 --> 00:03:16,019 tubes in the Sagrada família case so 54 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:18,030 many cases it's hard to even keep them 55 00:03:23,930 --> 00:03:21,510 separate but enough of that let me make 56 00:03:26,629 --> 00:03:23,940 the case for hero go-to hero paranormal 57 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:26,639 comm check us out on hero paranormal at 58 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:30,000 Facebook also check out SWR on facebook 59 00:03:35,089 --> 00:03:32,190 which is our research project space wolf 60 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:35,099 research comm and check out the utah UFO 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:36,810 Hunters anything that has to do with us 62 00:03:50,770 --> 00:03:45,289 Thiago Wow your bio reads like something 63 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:50,780 out of a wild science fiction magazine 64 00:03:56,509 --> 00:03:54,510 you are on the forefront of everything a 65 00:03:59,449 --> 00:03:56,519 member and president of the Brazilian 66 00:04:01,460 --> 00:03:59,459 Commission of ufologist appointed as 67 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:01,470 assistant of the International director 68 00:04:06,589 --> 00:04:04,319 of mutual UFO network in Brazil you're 69 00:04:09,469 --> 00:04:06,599 certified in just about everything and 70 00:04:12,729 --> 00:04:09,479 your books your magazine articles and 71 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:12,739 the like make that clear and obvious 72 00:04:27,490 --> 00:04:16,440 Thiago welcome to the hero paranormal 73 00:04:32,409 --> 00:04:30,620 it's excellent it's it's great I like 74 00:04:35,390 --> 00:04:32,419 when I read a book that has so many 75 00:04:37,850 --> 00:04:35,400 cases that it's not just one case 76 00:04:41,090 --> 00:04:37,860 there's some cases which involve 77 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:41,100 thousands of people and that that's 78 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:50,220 pretty impressive all the 500 pages more 79 00:04:59,719 --> 00:04:55,289 than 300 photos it's pretty impressive 80 00:05:02,719 --> 00:04:59,729 it is III think it's I like that it has 81 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:02,729 different kinds of cases to it has some 82 00:05:07,879 --> 00:05:05,520 cases involving abductions others I want 83 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:07,889 to I'll get into all that and we I 84 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:10,110 appreciate you making it so so amazing 85 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:11,910 with like I love the pictures of like 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:14,430 the flowing the flying Volkswagen Beetle 87 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:17,010 and case and how did you get into 88 00:05:22,129 --> 00:05:20,210 ufology what sparked your interest and 89 00:05:23,689 --> 00:05:22,139 could you tell us a little bit about 90 00:05:37,659 --> 00:05:23,699 yourself 91 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:44,629 to read the two things that comic books 92 00:05:54,649 --> 00:05:49,770 Piderman adventures and ecology 93 00:06:01,279 --> 00:05:54,659 magazines and when I was 8 years old 94 00:06:04,939 --> 00:06:01,289 in 1982 until I saw my first and so 95 00:06:12,129 --> 00:06:04,949 father's only one time I saw us so 96 00:06:26,990 --> 00:06:19,960 called Yaga and you were bigger and 97 00:06:30,770 --> 00:06:27,000 brighter red a red bright and make a 98 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:30,780 movement arrest movement and feeling so 99 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:33,210 fed to the sky 100 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:36,090 that is impossible they're playing or 101 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:39,030 helicopters comedic you was not 102 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:42,090 there's no drones in the sky and well as 103 00:06:50,030 --> 00:06:46,800 a son of President Air Force pilot I was 104 00:06:55,220 --> 00:06:50,040 used to leave and s expensive I knew 105 00:07:00,590 --> 00:06:55,230 what was a airplane had a loon like that 106 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:00,600 what I saw was it was very obviously a 107 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:03,090 UFO that you had seen it wasn't it 108 00:07:09,650 --> 00:07:04,170 wasn't something that could be 109 00:07:11,630 --> 00:07:09,660 misidentified correct even today you 110 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:11,640 know that is so wild because that's so 111 00:07:17,659 --> 00:07:14,490 often the case with ufology you have 112 00:07:21,380 --> 00:07:17,669 these cases that defy explanation 113 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:21,390 and oftentimes people are so caught up 114 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:23,460 on the unidentified part that they think 115 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:26,010 it is something it and that's where we 116 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:27,570 kind of foul ourselves is putting it 117 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:30,330 into boxes but what I love about your 118 00:07:37,340 --> 00:07:33,450 book is that it has so many different 119 00:07:40,010 --> 00:07:37,350 cases that have abs they're so wild in 120 00:07:42,140 --> 00:07:40,020 unique and dynamic each on their own I 121 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:42,150 wanted to ask you about a bunch of them 122 00:07:47,659 --> 00:07:45,600 and I'm a big fan of the flying disc 123 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:47,669 press Philip mantel and everything he's 124 00:07:50,990 --> 00:07:49,410 got going on as well that's so neat that 125 00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:51,000 you got caught up with those guys I 126 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:53,550 wanted to ask you about that how did you 127 00:08:16,270 --> 00:07:55,680 get in touch with Philip and what 128 00:08:24,730 --> 00:08:19,400 some of the Articles that I translated 129 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:24,740 was groped by a pencil and it was my cup 130 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:29,010 2001 and I started to chat with Mentos 131 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:35,130 and and when it starts with that signing 132 00:08:43,820 --> 00:08:39,390 flying practice happy he said I don't if 133 00:08:47,329 --> 00:08:43,830 I didn't want to write well I had more 134 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:47,339 than 600 books of pathology in my house 135 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:52,160 and I used to read of course into right 136 00:09:00,070 --> 00:08:56,780 homes and make my research and reading 137 00:09:01,870 --> 00:09:00,080 this this books the most most of it 138 00:09:03,220 --> 00:09:01,880 isn't he in English opposed to giving 139 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:03,230 Spanish 140 00:09:17,310 --> 00:09:10,760 I felt that missing a lot of course you 141 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:17,320 know many cases no but one classic cases 142 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:22,130 happened in the 60s in the seventies but 143 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:26,990 cases very known in Brazil was unknown 144 00:09:33,370 --> 00:09:30,830 in other countries so I I talked to to 145 00:09:37,630 --> 00:09:33,380 Philip well let's do it and I start to 146 00:09:40,390 --> 00:09:37,640 research things some very known and 147 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:40,400 others on the whole night as I said and 148 00:09:49,780 --> 00:09:44,330 the result was this book about more than 149 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:49,790 a 500-page man it is and it is so neat 150 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:52,850 the some of it some of the cases are 151 00:09:57,370 --> 00:09:55,610 just so neat they they really stood out 152 00:10:01,210 --> 00:09:57,380 to me and I wanted to ask you about some 153 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:01,220 of them in particular and among one of 154 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:03,170 those is the one with is is it captain 155 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:05,930 holanda and he had six men and I think 156 00:10:10,540 --> 00:10:07,970 he had a he was next to a village that 157 00:10:38,530 --> 00:10:10,550 had like 2,000 people could you tell us 158 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:38,540 a bit about that case in Quad City they 159 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:51,350 were they have been attacking attacked 160 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:57,040 by a light both white shape like 161 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:01,360 patients that shut him a ray of light 162 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:12,610 shoulder females over the breast and of 163 00:11:25,470 --> 00:11:16,910 people think busy and they went to the 164 00:11:31,150 --> 00:11:25,480 hospital and the doctor said they had a 165 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:31,160 disease because this right took this 166 00:11:42,030 --> 00:11:38,810 blood so from there the UFOs and this 167 00:11:47,999 --> 00:11:42,040 case let's call it the super super case 168 00:11:53,410 --> 00:11:48,009 this light was one name like SEC SEC and 169 00:11:56,530 --> 00:11:53,420 I well we know one of these one person 170 00:12:01,990 --> 00:11:56,540 dies because of it officially want 171 00:12:06,009 --> 00:12:02,000 people died but we know that some cases 172 00:12:11,019 --> 00:12:06,019 some some death people we're not sure 173 00:12:14,069 --> 00:12:11,029 but some say that four or five people 174 00:12:18,249 --> 00:12:14,079 died because it and then their fourth 175 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:18,259 sent to display to justice scalia's 176 00:12:31,379 --> 00:12:23,600 accrual-based against his life and they 177 00:12:41,259 --> 00:12:37,449 Captain London detective x was happy he 178 00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:41,269 was he got some clothes of ailing ding 179 00:12:48,939 --> 00:12:46,009 like 5 meters distance of aliasing they 180 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:48,949 take off more than a hundred pictures 181 00:12:55,569 --> 00:12:54,110 more than 3.5 hours of film of us oh you 182 00:12:58,749 --> 00:12:55,579 know he might walk we have a lot of 183 00:13:02,710 --> 00:12:58,759 photos of this operation but of films 184 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:02,720 the film that were so much impressive so 185 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:05,630 much more impressive we're still looking 186 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:10,310 for suitable to the airport and they say 187 00:13:18,309 --> 00:13:14,480 that they didn't have it they lost it or 188 00:13:19,310 --> 00:13:18,319 never existed why it's alright because 189 00:13:26,060 --> 00:13:19,320 the 190 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:26,070 captain toad - AJ share virus and 82 of 191 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:29,070 the most brilliant resilience follow 192 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:33,270 Jesus that made the film his doom at the 193 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:36,060 object it was humid by a professional 194 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:38,970 from the business course so this case 195 00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:42,480 was amazed in seven eight it was ordered 196 00:13:50,410 --> 00:13:46,160 to shut out shut down the investigation 197 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:50,420 but we know that the United States 198 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:55,310 government and people to investigate a 199 00:14:00,950 --> 00:13:59,250 whiskey and soda surrounded the 200 00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:00,960 supership a phenomenal success 201 00:14:09,370 --> 00:14:08,220 phenomenon what researchers in 1982 four 202 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:09,380 more years 203 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:16,590 years and we saw no I think that much 204 00:14:26,690 --> 00:14:19,170 more material and this material North in 205 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:26,700 Brazil yeah it seems so often with these 206 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:29,130 cases and it's an amazing case I'll have 207 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:30,810 to ask you about the name Troopa because 208 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:33,450 here we we have at least in the you in a 209 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:36,150 basin of Utah where we do a research 210 00:14:39,830 --> 00:14:38,010 project we have these crafts we called 211 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:39,840 chupa just kind of like what you're 212 00:14:47,260 --> 00:14:42,930 saying kind of connected to sucking or 213 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:47,270 cattle mutilations or malevolent 214 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:50,910 activity but this case there were so 215 00:15:04,580 --> 00:14:55,170 many witnesses just so many witnesses in 216 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:04,590 general and many many city the people 217 00:15:21,550 --> 00:15:09,600 made the town free they were sleeping 218 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:25,520 in the food throwing the way to hit you 219 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:28,620 it was so afraid that they leave the 220 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:31,970 town the leprechaun amazing 221 00:15:41,309 --> 00:15:37,209 and I love the detail and as far as 222 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:41,319 paperwork or you know these sightings 223 00:15:47,529 --> 00:15:43,689 missing and going to the United States 224 00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:47,539 there's a history of this back and forth 225 00:15:52,419 --> 00:15:49,759 through intelligences whether it be the 226 00:15:55,359 --> 00:15:52,429 United States Brazil with the the your 227 00:15:57,879 --> 00:15:55,369 aerospace division I love that in your 228 00:16:00,669 --> 00:15:57,889 book you actually have pictures of you 229 00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:00,679 know great paperwork top-secret papers 230 00:16:04,419 --> 00:16:02,449 going back and forth that have been 231 00:16:07,359 --> 00:16:04,429 Declassified some that we're not quite 232 00:16:09,729 --> 00:16:07,369 sure really really impressive and I 233 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:09,739 wanted to ask you gosh there's so many 234 00:16:15,489 --> 00:16:13,759 cases it is this common with with it 235 00:16:17,319 --> 00:16:15,499 seems like he at least here in the 236 00:16:19,059 --> 00:16:17,329 United States we talked about the men in 237 00:16:22,029 --> 00:16:19,069 black or those government types that 238 00:16:23,229 --> 00:16:22,039 show up to these cases and before you 239 00:16:26,859 --> 00:16:23,239 know what they're swept under the rug 240 00:16:29,949 --> 00:16:26,869 does this happen as well in Brazil well 241 00:16:35,289 --> 00:16:29,959 we have some cases that we can compare 242 00:16:37,599 --> 00:16:35,299 with men and blacks the the most 243 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:37,609 importantly that we have not not that 244 00:16:43,229 --> 00:16:40,009 many black they were officials from the 245 00:16:49,329 --> 00:16:43,239 army or the Air Force but happened in 246 00:16:53,439 --> 00:16:49,339 Virginia when the witnesses receive a 247 00:16:55,329 --> 00:16:53,449 visit the some of these this man went to 248 00:16:58,739 --> 00:16:55,339 house of the witness in Essen 249 00:17:02,349 --> 00:16:58,749 well it sure Appleton we can pay you 250 00:17:07,470 --> 00:17:02,359 amount of money you just have to shut up 251 00:17:12,159 --> 00:17:07,480 shut up or say that what you saw nothing 252 00:17:17,230 --> 00:17:12,169 it was alien but in this case like play 253 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:17,240 separation they don't needed to to push 254 00:17:25,779 --> 00:17:22,850 people two to three to threat people was 255 00:17:29,259 --> 00:17:25,789 a rather frayed and treated by by the 256 00:17:33,159 --> 00:17:29,269 the US homes so they went there to 257 00:17:38,460 --> 00:17:33,169 investigate and they got hundreds of 258 00:17:41,859 --> 00:17:38,470 pages of reports hundreds of photos and 259 00:17:45,340 --> 00:17:41,869 sketches and toys and was something 260 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,350 amazing that if you were few 261 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:47,600 looking for more details and more 262 00:17:54,039 --> 00:17:50,470 toughness and moment photo and module 263 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:54,049 that is great because what I noticed 264 00:17:57,759 --> 00:17:55,519 about all the cases in your book is 265 00:17:59,529 --> 00:17:57,769 they're very involved with as you said 266 00:18:02,700 --> 00:17:59,539 if there's not photos or is usually a 267 00:18:06,029 --> 00:18:02,710 sketch or a very detailed account of 268 00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:06,039 what had taken place in those areas and 269 00:18:12,220 --> 00:18:09,799 there's another one that really caught 270 00:18:25,570 --> 00:18:12,230 my attention was this was it the Sagrada 271 00:18:31,570 --> 00:18:25,580 família case with the Cyclops in the 50s 272 00:18:34,779 --> 00:18:31,580 as a 50 or 60 group of kids were out of 273 00:18:39,269 --> 00:18:34,789 the house washing the dishes of the 274 00:18:43,090 --> 00:18:39,279 dinner and then they saw a huge UFO 275 00:18:49,409 --> 00:18:43,100 circular arts area for looters friends 276 00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:49,419 being seated inside it was like less and 277 00:18:58,990 --> 00:18:53,990 one of the kids was was cleaning the 278 00:19:05,019 --> 00:18:59,000 dishes and from there they were 14 right 279 00:19:09,549 --> 00:19:05,029 and satisfied came a huge being I tried 280 00:19:14,350 --> 00:19:09,559 been a type of being that got closer to 281 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:14,360 the kid and it was almost we were almost 282 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:17,600 to touch the shoulder of the kid his 283 00:19:26,409 --> 00:19:22,970 brother first of it and then being think 284 00:19:31,090 --> 00:19:26,419 that he got angry and tried to to groom 285 00:19:35,529 --> 00:19:31,100 something and then returned like looking 286 00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:35,539 like a robot to delight in then I guess 287 00:19:43,869 --> 00:19:38,870 inside they were so and by way but this 288 00:19:46,509 --> 00:19:43,879 case was so amazing that these kids were 289 00:19:49,419 --> 00:19:46,519 interviewed by ufology and was 290 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:49,429 interviewed by police it is never never 291 00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:52,610 changed their testimony they always say 292 00:19:58,930 --> 00:19:56,860 the same thing all the time it was I 293 00:20:00,880 --> 00:19:58,940 think that's really important 294 00:20:03,130 --> 00:20:00,890 with a lot of these cases is they've 295 00:20:05,230 --> 00:20:03,140 been looked through and prepared very 296 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:05,240 well and with as far as how you 297 00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:07,610 documented them it was really well and 298 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:10,790 documented involving small details and 299 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:12,890 obviously a lot of times the devil is in 300 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:15,770 the details with these because I mean a 301 00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:18,770 huge giant being almost touching the kid 302 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:21,620 it was a really creepy experience for 303 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:27,080 this for this child in a scary a scary a 304 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:30,650 scary alien or you know reptilian space 305 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:32,360 alien type looking thing if I'm not 306 00:20:39,610 --> 00:20:36,080 mistaken it had tubes and almost like a 307 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:39,620 I could be wrong but the drawing was 308 00:20:45,220 --> 00:20:42,710 really good it had almost like like 309 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:45,230 something around its head possibly very 310 00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:49,010 interesting case yes like a helmet like 311 00:20:56,740 --> 00:20:54,350 a visor helmet it's a sight Dyson helmet 312 00:21:01,060 --> 00:20:56,750 made of glass yeah that's what it 313 00:21:02,890 --> 00:21:01,070 reminded me of amazing and the and some 314 00:21:04,450 --> 00:21:02,900 of the vivid pictures in your in your 315 00:21:07,330 --> 00:21:04,460 book as well I wanted to talk about the 316 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:07,340 flying Volkswagen Beetle case which was 317 00:21:20,110 --> 00:21:10,400 hard too hard to ignore could you tell 318 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:20,120 us a bit about that case you know we 319 00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:22,610 call video here in Brazil we hope future 320 00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:32,240 and this case happened in 1907 when home 321 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:36,140 built our bodies he was driving the the 322 00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:38,810 you know seventh wife and his daughter 323 00:21:52,330 --> 00:21:47,960 he saw beautiful of them and this is 324 00:21:56,770 --> 00:21:52,340 hard to get away from this is always 325 00:22:02,730 --> 00:21:56,780 didn't know what was but certainly the 326 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:07,860 should sometimes rain all around like 327 00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:11,790 like around God 328 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:15,720 treason like the time like it's the time 329 00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:17,850 of topic 330 00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:22,070 oh this all our them what reason number 331 00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:29,460 they call raise up two men two methods 332 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:34,190 from the road he was so afraid so afraid 333 00:22:42,020 --> 00:22:39,450 they can move after that they were put 334 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:42,030 there the car in the road again 335 00:22:53,210 --> 00:22:47,430 and they try to keep this the trip and 336 00:23:02,410 --> 00:22:53,220 when they they got home they like no 337 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:02,420 like you know fifty either in a car they 338 00:23:10,190 --> 00:23:06,720 cannot explain up there and after that 339 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:10,200 they say that somebody said it has a 340 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,170 nothing counters of your cells and they 341 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:16,080 mean but this we don't know who this 342 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:18,330 true but this case was amazing and it 343 00:23:25,220 --> 00:23:23,010 was investigate by that is so amazing 344 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:25,230 that the there are some really actual 345 00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:27,450 investigations that were they where they 346 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:30,900 go through and they they've displayed 347 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:33,380 quite an interest in some of these cases 348 00:23:38,060 --> 00:23:35,940 because of the effect it had on the 349 00:23:41,090 --> 00:23:38,070 people and I mean I can't even imagine 350 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:41,100 seeing a Volkswagen Beetle flowing 351 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:43,650 through the air but there are cases like 352 00:23:49,310 --> 00:23:46,410 that there is a case that I heard of 353 00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:49,320 with a army official here where same 354 00:24:05,650 --> 00:23:51,300 same thing where their vehicle got 355 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:07,040 competition 356 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:15,150 from the tradition and rest 357 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:18,480 cosmic kilometers after there is another 358 00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:24,780 plane and in your book UFO contacts in 359 00:24:28,650 --> 00:24:25,630 Brazil I know 360 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:28,660 that you were very careful to not there 361 00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:30,490 was there wasn't a ton of judgment it 362 00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:31,960 was just really sticking to the facts 363 00:24:35,910 --> 00:24:35,500 like there was another case the is it 364 00:24:38,460 --> 00:24:35,920 Betty 365 00:24:40,590 --> 00:24:38,470 and Deborah okay that Deborah case with 366 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:40,600 had an interesting case about abduction 367 00:25:02,220 --> 00:24:44,290 involving two cousins that case was 368 00:25:06,660 --> 00:25:02,230 strange very strange many people many 369 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:06,670 times this is the displeases Banshee in 370 00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:11,290 Deborah they were Coby and they were 371 00:25:20,430 --> 00:25:14,950 abduction at the same time it happened 372 00:25:27,030 --> 00:25:20,440 into town in 1991 actually this part in 373 00:25:30,540 --> 00:25:27,040 1991 and this two two cousins were and 374 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:30,550 they reported that the aliens were so 375 00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:37,210 trained like he had like brown and grey 376 00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:45,190 and blue team with four fingers a little 377 00:25:52,830 --> 00:25:49,260 somewhat older than others and they had 378 00:25:59,490 --> 00:25:52,840 immediate ammeter a nice image at all 379 00:26:04,230 --> 00:25:59,500 and the true cousin endeavor where 380 00:26:09,030 --> 00:26:04,240 abductions several times and the aliens 381 00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:09,040 put some implants on them but when they 382 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:11,950 put implanted trying to shake because of 383 00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:15,790 they fathered was like hurt that they 384 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:19,120 had so they took the implant off and 385 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:22,770 they were abducted again and it puts 386 00:26:37,260 --> 00:26:28,450 implants again on them like to attract 387 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,270 them and they would happen Ozzie and put 388 00:26:43,710 --> 00:26:39,520 him to 389 00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:43,720 and they say the same story they both 390 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:47,900 said the same story so it's amazing to 391 00:26:56,350 --> 00:26:52,130 me that because if they are other gnosis 392 00:27:00,880 --> 00:26:56,360 they cannot fly and they cannot fake the 393 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:00,890 same thing that other faiths yeah it's a 394 00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:04,330 fascinating close encounter case and 395 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:08,180 it's I think it's important that I was 396 00:27:13,810 --> 00:27:12,290 unaware that Brazil is it's one of the 397 00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:13,820 countries with the highest UFO 398 00:27:20,610 --> 00:27:18,320 incidences in the world yeah it I mean 399 00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:20,620 the case is occurring in the country are 400 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:23,540 some pretty pretty pretty fascinating a 401 00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:28,610 lot of a lot of direct contact and it's 402 00:27:33,549 --> 00:27:30,860 there's there's quite a few cases that 403 00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:33,559 what I liked is the difference in the 404 00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:35,840 actual observers or the people involved 405 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:38,360 with the cases everything from country 406 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:42,290 folk to judges - you know police 407 00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:44,570 officers themselves which are which the 408 00:27:48,910 --> 00:27:46,790 police officers were actually 409 00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:48,920 reprimanded or we kind of got in trouble 410 00:27:55,210 --> 00:27:51,320 for admitting they saw things in some of 411 00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,220 the cases and I wanted to also mention 412 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:57,440 that you have written more than nine 413 00:28:02,620 --> 00:27:59,090 books on this so I don't want our 414 00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:02,630 audience to just stop at you know UFOs 415 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,270 contacts in Brazil but there's a lot 416 00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:07,760 more books available and I was wondering 417 00:28:11,169 --> 00:28:09,230 if you could tell us about some of your 418 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:11,179 favorite cases or the ones that you 419 00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:26,570 think are most important I actually 420 00:28:35,710 --> 00:28:30,380 temple and the protects my is my 11th 421 00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:35,720 book apology I will talk about US 422 00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:39,470 foreign aliens policy and books about 423 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:43,100 the UFO cases in general and books about 424 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:47,510 my ad code articles that were in 425 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:52,310 magazines in Brazil and England well 426 00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:55,370 I really like the place operation 427 00:29:03,460 --> 00:28:59,600 I do realize it and I do lose occurred 428 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:03,470 here in Brasilia that was the plan at 429 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:19,990 buy police officers by doctors by 430 00:29:32,410 --> 00:29:27,770 fireman fireman and 90 80 1996 it was in 431 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:32,420 it three men are coming I finish the 432 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:35,210 trip they are in our state and they're 433 00:29:43,270 --> 00:29:39,700 coming to to Brasilia they saw a UFO 434 00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:43,280 first of all they probably was with Paul 435 00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:46,460 there were before the train store in 436 00:29:54,370 --> 00:29:49,640 Douglas high but the first tried to 437 00:29:56,380 --> 00:29:54,380 change them and got closer and they 438 00:30:04,300 --> 00:29:56,390 realize that what what what they thought 439 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:04,310 was a huge huge UFO in a shake if some 440 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:06,410 of them say one of them said it would 441 00:30:12,730 --> 00:30:08,930 she like a cross obviously there was 442 00:30:16,290 --> 00:30:12,740 assuming there but anyway this will 443 00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:16,300 change them and the one point in 444 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:19,030 neighborhood we call here at Roger Lodge 445 00:30:28,990 --> 00:30:26,350 96 was very very remote area this were 446 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:29,000 hobart over the street in the front of 447 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:31,370 the cars his cars 448 00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:37,610 he's caught and they do a bid for 10 449 00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:42,500 seconds 15 seconds and they fell we had 450 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:47,750 to cross the room together accelerate 451 00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:52,730 this car and passes over the us all the 452 00:31:00,330 --> 00:30:55,580 phone starts changing them and they 453 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:00,340 stopped it in a place where there was a 454 00:31:08,380 --> 00:31:04,730 it's not a police office 455 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,390 and the first member of the Arkansas 456 00:31:12,970 --> 00:31:10,640 there they were so bad well I cannot do 457 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:12,980 nothing because I don't know anything 458 00:31:19,690 --> 00:31:18,470 so they because they decide to history 459 00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:19,700 their trip again 460 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:25,070 at one point in a job or another they 461 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:25,730 stop it 462 00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:31,400 and all of this business called his son 463 00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:34,120 it was a professional photographer and 464 00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:39,380 he said when they're and 236 forums 465 00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:43,070 offeree of the three of us hope one of 466 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:48,320 this photo season is in my book very 467 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:52,490 bright white likes lingered and this I 468 00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:55,250 was so blue and clearer that photo is 469 00:32:05,550 --> 00:32:01,600 beautiful and then they were there two 470 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:05,560 police officers one of them had a camera 471 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:10,570 and Cara and tried to feel bigger for 472 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:15,650 five minutes and then the result 473 00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:19,130 accelerated disappear and this film is 474 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:22,640 this officer the core team his name was 475 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:28,490 Georgina the corporal go Gina show to a 476 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:30,650 whole battalion of the military police 477 00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:34,810 and they asked the media the press and 478 00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:39,700 the forest to see the defeated and 479 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:42,460 investigate and we did with this case 480 00:32:49,210 --> 00:32:46,010 our conclusion was that was not an 481 00:32:55,230 --> 00:32:49,220 airplane was not in helicopters was a 482 00:32:58,570 --> 00:32:55,240 balloon actually with UFO it did amazing 483 00:33:00,910 --> 00:32:58,580 there are so many of them and it seems 484 00:33:04,210 --> 00:33:00,920 like there is a larger scheme of some 485 00:33:06,690 --> 00:33:04,220 sort you know with these craft some are 486 00:33:09,130 --> 00:33:06,700 able to some summer scene actually 487 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:09,140 contacting the victims others are taking 488 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:11,090 off at rates of speed that the military 489 00:33:17,740 --> 00:33:14,570 is blown away by and I if I'm not 490 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:17,750 mistaken there was a recent case was it 491 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:18,480 near south 492 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:22,260 with some fishermen Fernando Becerra and 493 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:26,130 Wilson de Silva Oliviera where they were 494 00:33:31,820 --> 00:33:28,770 gathering their nets it just goes to 495 00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:31,830 show that the amount of cases that are 496 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:34,980 taking place in Brazil it's a very 497 00:33:41,630 --> 00:33:37,290 active area any ideas of what could 498 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:41,640 cause so much activity and you know why 499 00:34:01,150 --> 00:33:43,770 is the specific area such a hot spot 500 00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:01,160 because it seems to be the word fishing 501 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:11,250 when they saw a UFO famine and got so 502 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:16,770 close to them they could move when they 503 00:34:24,830 --> 00:34:21,169 move it they were planted ended in the 504 00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:24,840 last March on the grass like square 505 00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:30,590 marks and forties from the info 506 00:34:36,609 --> 00:34:33,960 aeronautical investigation phenomena in 507 00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:36,619 some Paulo leading I call this code 508 00:34:50,899 --> 00:34:45,480 that's already passed away they may mark 509 00:35:14,630 --> 00:34:50,909 in the grass the map the grass and they 510 00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:14,640 they concluded to make something and now 511 00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:19,320 we have to blend it in okay let's be 512 00:35:28,810 --> 00:35:25,590 more than four okay that is so one that 513 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:28,820 fathers as well the the landmark that 514 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:32,310 that is so wild because yeah these it's 515 00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:35,310 literally like this tripod this landing 516 00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:39,270 gear in the dirt leaving a very obvious 517 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:40,680 impression like something you would 518 00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:43,050 expect out of Star Wars or something it 519 00:35:50,090 --> 00:35:46,590 has a very high-tech high-tech little 520 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:50,100 these tripod booth feet I guess it was 521 00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:51,870 like a saucer with feet is what it looks 522 00:36:05,840 --> 00:35:53,460 like because it left a mark on the earth 523 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:05,850 as well very heavy very very heavy and 524 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:10,710 last month we call beautiful net in the 525 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:16,050 grass like the we like if we had you 526 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:30,330 know separate yeah yeah and to have 527 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:32,700 landing gear like that and leave them in 528 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:35,250 the in the dirt I mean I was really 529 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:38,730 blown away by by the image of seeing 530 00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:40,530 something like that and seeing those 531 00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:43,260 those feet that like like the 532 00:36:47,090 --> 00:36:45,360 traditional UFO like a child would draw 533 00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:47,100 with like the little feet coming off or 534 00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,790 any of us that would think and it's it's 535 00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:52,560 pretty fascinating and that's you know a 536 00:36:57,490 --> 00:36:55,230 more recent case pretty intense and the 537 00:37:01,010 --> 00:36:57,500 fishermen if I'm not mistaken they were 538 00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:01,020 their boats engine actually even stopped 539 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:09,540 when the object passed over and this 540 00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:14,850 statement went back to the same place 20 541 00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:18,840 years 20 years later and the place where 542 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:24,300 they landed a small fish a little black 543 00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:29,490 on it oh that's so wild 544 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:35,790 Sony such a neat case and I I just loved 545 00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:38,970 it really it really sounds like one of 546 00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:41,910 those cases that is not only traditional 547 00:37:48,410 --> 00:37:45,480 it was it you know but it it fits 548 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:48,420 all those boxes of you know rectangular 549 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:49,650 support legs 550 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:52,170 the vegetation being dry twisted and 551 00:37:56,359 --> 00:37:54,630 flattened in a clockwise direction kind 552 00:38:03,620 --> 00:37:56,369 of the same things you would see in a 553 00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:03,630 crop circle it's really fascinating and 554 00:38:09,290 --> 00:38:07,020 it's it's fabulous the way that they 555 00:38:10,940 --> 00:38:09,300 described it I think the way the the you 556 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:10,950 know the psychological effects on the 557 00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:12,990 eyewitnesses and both of them 558 00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:14,910 complaining about ie rotation and 559 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:17,670 diarrhea I mean tests this is some scary 560 00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:20,010 stuff and we get we find this a lot with 561 00:38:25,690 --> 00:38:23,369 people that see these craft do you find 562 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:25,700 that there is a common thread in 563 00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:29,490 somewhat of medical malfunctions or 564 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:31,560 shorter lifespans after seeing these 565 00:38:45,710 --> 00:38:36,089 craft up close and personal you know do 566 00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:45,720 people get sick often yeah terrified 567 00:39:09,770 --> 00:38:59,130 cases that's a man that melted after we 568 00:39:22,990 --> 00:39:09,780 know what and this case happened in 569 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:23,000 night 1945 and your presence was city 570 00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:31,710 well back in the in the forties let's 571 00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:35,790 whiskey in in the in on the street 572 00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:38,640 so what welcome and before you were to 573 00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:47,599 describe and well we don't know why he 574 00:39:57,859 --> 00:39:52,160 didn't know why you shut him alight 575 00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,869 happy not right and he are to to self 576 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:00,240 easy and 577 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:07,590 pain on leg and a few days later he's 578 00:40:19,610 --> 00:40:11,760 flesh hard to get apart from this bone 579 00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:19,620 from the chest and fingers legs and feet 580 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:25,140 and she died you know slicer radiation 581 00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:28,530 contamination or predation when you lost 582 00:40:41,470 --> 00:40:32,670 parts of your body like falling the 583 00:40:47,090 --> 00:40:41,480 flesh so his body but 1946 so and 584 00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:47,100 something hit him I reapplied with 585 00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:49,470 nothing like a Chernobyl but like a 586 00:40:59,950 --> 00:40:54,270 Fukushima now alien or you had folded 587 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:03,020 it's really scary it's really a scary 588 00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:05,970 case that really is so there is some 589 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:08,550 danger and problems with this these 590 00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:13,290 these type of encounters at times and so 591 00:41:19,970 --> 00:41:15,360 it's it can be very devastating to the 592 00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:19,980 victims pretty amazing stuff for our 593 00:41:24,350 --> 00:41:21,600 listeners that are interested in getting 594 00:41:26,450 --> 00:41:24,360 your past books your present book and 595 00:41:28,130 --> 00:41:26,460 future books and whatever other projects 596 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,140 you're on Thiago where do you recommend 597 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:30,960 they find this online or where can they 598 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:33,090 what else do you have going on and where 599 00:41:48,140 --> 00:41:45,110 can they find it selling on Amazon but 600 00:41:51,110 --> 00:41:48,150 my other books I'm Portuguese is not in 601 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:51,120 English but you can buy if you can you 602 00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:54,900 can learn it's not easy language you 603 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:01,760 know you can buy 604 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:08,690 UFOs BR if you're from magazine Brazil 605 00:42:16,220 --> 00:42:12,510 website let's publish my book well my 606 00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:16,230 new or my MA next project I'm gonna 607 00:42:24,740 --> 00:42:21,660 write about beautiful in world war one 608 00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:24,750 ensuring other conflicts other world 609 00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:32,070 wealth in the world and I'm Philip must 610 00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:36,150 ask me if I don't want to write a book 611 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:38,580 about to follow your foreign agent 612 00:42:45,260 --> 00:42:41,850 apology in English well I still have to 613 00:42:49,780 --> 00:42:45,270 think about it because I took three 614 00:42:53,210 --> 00:42:49,790 years to write this book and you know 615 00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:53,220 what to do it so well very very deeply 616 00:43:02,330 --> 00:42:58,610 in a makeup that super research oh 617 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:02,340 they're gonna be well UFO contacts in 618 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:04,650 Brazil is a great book it's one of its 619 00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:07,410 it's got some of the most amazing cases 620 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:09,750 I couldn't put it down it was it was a 621 00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:14,160 great great read and I really appreciate 622 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:15,660 it I appreciate you taking some time 623 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:19,530 today and speaking with us and I can't 624 00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:22,650 wait to keep keep an eye on what else 625 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:23,910 you have coming and hope to have you 626 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:34,890 back soon I think when you need would 627 00:43:42,610 --> 00:43:40,560 like to speak about Brazil Polly well 628 00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:42,620 there you have it ladies and gentlemen 629 00:43:48,830 --> 00:43:45,900 UFO contacts in Brazil the latest book 630 00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:48,840 by Tiago Lewis to Chetty definitely 631 00:43:55,070 --> 00:43:52,110 check it out on Amazon he has got some 632 00:43:57,110 --> 00:43:55,080 amazing stuff he there's his list of 633 00:43:59,840 --> 00:43:57,120 accomplishments in ufology is so 634 00:44:04,490 --> 00:43:59,850 underrated he's the co-editor of revista 635 00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:04,500 UFO coordinator as well he's also on the 636 00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:07,500 committee of really Etta the UFO logos 637 00:44:12,140 --> 00:44:11,220 which is like the ufology Commission of 638 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:12,150 Brasileiro 639 00:44:16,250 --> 00:44:14,190 it's it's pretty amazing if 640 00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:16,260 look at his accomplishments he is beyond 641 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:19,400 a doubt the person most recognized with 642 00:44:24,140 --> 00:44:22,170 ufology in brazil and it was a pleasure 643 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:24,150 to have him on the podcast definitely 644 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:26,610 support him and check out the other 645 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:28,770 stuff he has going on I can't thank him 646 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